Serial Numbers. Serial. General Placement & Rational# Extra. Mismatching Cylinders# Gaps in the Serial Numbers # Total Production # Colt’s New Generation Armies# International Distribution# Thoughts about the Many Models & Variations# Strategy 1 – Reach New Buyers # Strategy 2 – Increase. Production Output & Implement Cost Cutting # Milestones of the Centaures# Mythbuster. General Placement & Rational: Like the Colt Armies of 1. Belgian. They were visible on barrel lug. Typical. placement of serials on #1. Pre-1899 Firearms FAQ by James Rawles. Do you have a list of 'cut-off' serial numbers for determining if my gun is an antique? Best grade: serial # below 22000, Paradox guns: serial # below 15400 Hopkins and Allen. A few pistols had no. Digits. of #1. 26. Serial. number of #1. Like. #4. 61. 2 most pistols have (last) digits of serial on the breech side of the. Winchester Firearms Manufacturing Dates by Serial Number and Year. RECORDS AT THE FACTORY INDICATE THE FOLLOWING SERIAL NUMBERS WERE ASSIGNED TO GUNS AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 1903 - 04-05 - 06 - 07-08 - 09 - 10 - 11. Dating Singer Sewing Machines From Serial. For example during WW2 it is a well know fact the Singers were making guns. Serial Numbers # General Placement & Rational # Extra & Mismatching Cylinders # Gaps in the Serial Numbers # Total Production # Colt’s New Generation Armies. SKS serial numbers, SKS prices, Russian, Chinese, Korean, German, Albanian, Romanian, Polish, 7.62x39 caliber, rifle, Gun. Hammers and back- straps. Few grips are stamped with the last digit only of the serial number. Even. fewer grips of the very early pistols had their serial number written with a. Serial. on hammer of #9. Because there were no visible. For details scroll down or go over the the respective chapter of the. Models & Variations page. Marlin Serial Numbers = Dates Of Manufacture. There is some confusion about how Marlin Firearms used their serial numbers to ID the year of. Since long guns were not required to have serial numbers on them under US. It is our today’s. FAUL numbered their Centaure RNMAs, 1st variation. Marshals (3- screw version) and the factory engraved variants of these pistols. Late. production models with F- prefix, i. Original Item: Only one available. This is an original WW2 1943 Ford GPW Jeep. It has ALL MATCHING serial numbers. Bira Gun; Brunswick Rifle. Brunswick Guns; Brunswick Parts; Cannons & Mortars. Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless.32 ACP & Model 1908 Pocket Hammerless.380 ACP - Unusual Serial Numbers. Cavalry Models and/or 2nd variation Marshals are also numbered. F- prefix is added to the serial number underneath the. The models with C- prefix, i. Civilian Models, early production F- prefix, i. Cavalry Models pistols, and the Pocket Armies are numbered in. Extra & Mismatching Cylinders: in the USA you could order your 1st. RNMAs (rebated, plain cylinder) with extra cylinders. Your choice was. either an extra cylinder of the same kind, one with the Centaure proprietary. Colt- type naval scene. The Colt- or Ormsby- type naval scene as some initiates call it was by. In Europe your 1st variation RNMA. Centaure proprietary naval scene. If. your 2nd or 3rd variation RNMA has a cylinder mismatching. In other words what looks like. RNMA is actually a 1st. Provided, of course the serial number is below the assumed total #1. Furthermore. we have one 6th variation RNMA (stainless look, fluted cylinder), 2nd. This pistol. was delivered with an extra cylinder of the plain, rebated kind in the proper. A. caveat is in order here: mismatching cylinders can and did occur for other. The making of the Centaures required. Li. This just called for the occasional mismatch. Quite a few such mismatching cylinders slipped. QC in Lincolnwood . For details regarding this. MOTHERLOAD page. 1. The. majority of buyers during the 1. They purchased that C& B revolver as a shooting. In. Europe during the 1. C& B revolvers were available. US of A. Legally. FAUL’s. QC and the Li. Please, browse down for a proposed explanation. If this was a late production 1. NEW MODEL ARMY”. The digits on the breech side of the cylinder read 4. No other. Belgian has been found where the S/N is embossed into barrel, frame. The. late H. Stammel of German cowboy novel writer. Western gun shooter and renowned cowboy gun collector owned the two Centaures #1. He. describedthelatter in the German gunmagazine. Deutsches Waffenjournal DWJ in 1. He did not write , however, about the unusual. S/Ns were stamped. Back- strap and grip were found marked with #1. She was also stripped of her original blue/CCH finish that she still. There are 2 aspects to be considered here: # in my opinion Stammel’s description of his #5 1. DWJ. publication led later writers to state as a fact that ca. Centaure. C& B pistols were manufactured . No Centaure with the serial number #1. Back- strap. of #5 1. If #1. 37. 09 is actually the serial number the correct. NEW MODEL ARMY” like for the afore. But his paper appeared in the August 1. DWJ edition implying. CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1. NEW MODEL ARMY” barrel marking of # 5 1. This confusing story got a. November 2. 6, 2. Centaure #0. 43. 57. German gun show in Kassel at one of the dealer. In line with FROCS SOPs she was liberated on the spot. This RNMA of the. RNMA has the barrel. CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1. NEW. MODEL ARMY”. Cylinder, hammer, BS and grip. RNMA #0. 43. 57. 3; barrel lug, frame & trigger- guardstamped. If #1. 19. 09 were the actual S/N she was made earlier. According to the data in our survey the barrel marking of that. CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1. NEW MODEL ARMY”. Which is what we have here. When I discussed the. Colt collector and well- known Western gun dealer Kurt Bouras of. Mainz (www. classic- firearms. What did Colt do towards the end of the production of their 1. Army? No, they grabbed whatever usable parts there. Armies or used the parts for conversions”. After having. digested his blunt statement here is my considered opinion about what happened. FAUL’s between 1. Remember: at that time the writing was on the wall. Centaure production was about to come to an end. The Belgians swept. New parts from the production line namely barrels. S/Ns. Barrel. Frame. TGCyl. Hammer. BSGrip. O4. 35. 73. O4. 35. O4. 35. 73. O4. 35. Fitting and finish found. FAUL’s. Does this theory make. I like to refer to these. Mixed Serial Factory Reworks or MSFRs. To get the. definition straight MSFRs comprise newly made or renumbered barrel, frame and/or. Of course, these newly. Since the highest serial. Centaure with all matching parts currently known. Centaure with a serial number higher than. Based on my July. Centaures. then in the survey I estimate that the total number of MSFRs is ca. RNMAs). Another gap of serial. Cavalry. Models: the first production runs were between 1. S/Ns between #F1 and around #F1. I. believe that only ca. Many. were sold with matching stock. Another mini batch was produced ca. It is. assumed that no more than a total 1. Cavalry Models without (1st sub- variation: almost flat 4th screws) and with. Contrary to the. 1st variation Cavalry Models these later production pistols have one. F- prefix only stamped above the digits of the serial number under the. RNMAs and 1st variation Marshals! The 2nd. variation Marshals (4- srew version). Cavalry Model. Like these late Cavalry pistols these very rare variants. Marshals feature that single F- prefix in that same position under the. F- prefix of #F8. To relate serial numbers to year. Therefore, approximate. Proof house inspectors’ time of duty which has been released recently. Some early original. According to old correspondence available. Atlantic, implying very short turn- around time on the dealer’s. This gives a pretty good guesstimate for the early period through. February 1. 96. 8. For the later period there are many old sales slips from the. The Li. These date letters were lower case letters: Greek. Latin letters for the period 1. None of these date letters has been discovered on any of the. Belgians inspected. So, please, holler when you find a date letter on your 1. New Model Army. Based on the inspector. Lowest regular. serial number on a in the survey is #2, highest is #1. MSFRs #1. 84. 08, #5 1. After the first 5. RNMAs with the rebated and plain cylinder were made starting 1. RNMA) the Civilian Model was added later in 1. C1. up. In late Spring of 1. Army, the Cavalry Model (1st variation), was launched. F1 up. Production of the Cavalries started, however, already in. The special order Pocket Armies. Regular pistols. including the prefix models have all numbered parts with matching numbers or. No assembly numbers were used. C- and. F- prefix models (1st variation Cavalry Models only) pistols have the. The prefix may or. Grips inspected do not. Later. Cavalry Models (2nd variation) and the. Marshal Models have one single F- prefix above the digits of. All other serial numbers are. Pocket. Armies known so far have no visible serial numbers! Their serial numbers are on. Total Production: based on the 5. July 2. 01. 1 or 3,4 % of. Belgian. Colts between 1. Of all New Model Armies. RNMAs represent the biggest chunk. They are the variant. New Model Armies. TOTALRNMAs. 13,3. Pocket Armies. 80# 1stvariation. Marshal Models. 78. De Luxe. 40. Civilian Modelle. Presentation. 5# . The RNMAs are. followed by the Cavalry Models with some 1,1. Civilians coming in as a close third with 1,0. Marshals belly guns but only 8. Pocket Armies snubbies. Colt’s New Generation Armies: To. Colt Armies were made and/or assembled between 1. Signature Series. Armies between 1. However, for a fair comparison of apples to. Colt mix since they appeal to a small subset of collectors and to virtually. So, we end up with ca. This equals a total of some 2. Centaures excluding factory engraved, “colterized” models and other “special” variants or 2. Centaures than newly made Colt Armies were produced . If you add the survival rate in this equation. Colt Armies exceeds the Centaures. This little math might stimulate some thoughts like which pistol. Please. share your views over at the forum and kick- off some discussions. RNMAs. Variation. Variation. 7,5. 35# 1st sub- variation. MSFRs. 30# De Luxe. Super De Luxe. 10# Presentation. Another. considerable European market for Centaures was. France but significantly less than Germany. It is probably fair to. US shipments were made in the period 1. European dealers and shooters jumped on this Centaure bandwagon from. Early “first owner” sales were reported from Belgium, France and. Germany. Thoughts about the. Many Models & Variations: between 1. FAUL. appears to have been busy making prototypes and producing new models. New Model Army. What could have been the. Browse further down to the summarizing milestones. Bill Edwards and Sig Shore in the USA. They. identified most of the market needs and niches for modifications of the basic. Centaure “1. 96. 0 NEW MODEL ARMY” design. During these early years already 4 of. RNMA 3rd variation #3. USA)#. RNMA in 3 variations plus a few. Civilian Model in 2 variations#. Cavalry Model in 1 variation but 3. Pocket Army in 3 variations. To this impressive list. Centaures “colterized” by US restorer & gunsmith Thomas Haas or. Horacio Q. Acevedo, for the personal. Edwards and Shore and also for sale to the public. Civilian Model 2nd variation #C4. USA)Behind. the scene in Li. This alteration made the target shooters happy.
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